In the spring 2017 I plan to breed with Kim (X Jim)
both dogs have in their ancestors
* Derek Scrimgeous Ben (220939)
* Derek Scrimgeous Lyn (227341)
* Horst Ludwigs Lad (226304)
a lot of other very good dogs.....

my hope is good breed for strong, qiet balanced, enforceability dogs.

both, Kim and Jim bear these qualities.